[manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?

[Storer, Darren]

For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but still
here.

D


On 01/08/2007, Baker, George <George.Baker at oldham.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi
> That's a definite MAYBE from me
>
> How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally?
>
> George
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: manchesterwireless-bounces+george=
> networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net [mailto:
> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net]
> On Behalf Of Reuben Finch
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM
> To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list'
> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>
> I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get together,
> maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social event
> whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real
> direction
> and build some enthusiasm up.  I sincerely feel we can harp on all we like
> on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of achieving
> some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together would
> help.
>
> Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is
> feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we have.  As
> always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future.
>
> The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets see what
> can be done "realistically".
>
> Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away from the
> wife and kids.
>
> Honest Scouts Honour!
>
> What do you think?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Reuben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net
> [mailto:
> manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle
> ss.net] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton
> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46
> To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list
> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>
> > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list
> > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never
> > achieve anything. Now prove me
> > wrong.
>
> Warrington Wireless :)  But then again, we are a minority and live outside
> of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals to the
> group.
>
> That is one of successful and still working project that I am aware of ?
> (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless).
>
> Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, but he
> does have a valid point) ....
> there must be other
> achievements? Whether locally or further a field?
>
> Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other achievements
> :)
>
> I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action over
> the
> years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements thanks to
> help
>
> from
> the group. It would be good to hear from you :)
>
> Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a vision
> to
> head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. I'm keen
> to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs
> direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. Keeping the
> current content on the website is only confusing people, and people hoping
> to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to
> happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many other
> options available that we could try. Linking networks together just the
> sake
>
> of "we've done it" could be a start?
>
> Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to lead
> the
> group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? Shame
> if
> this happens.
>
> The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of people.
> Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting attempt, well,
> it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda.
>
> What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to the list?
> Be
> honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward or stay
> stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame anyone, a
> nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people are on
> the
> list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website "promotes" it.
> It would be good to hear from you.
>
> It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and beyond. That
> needs
> support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up to you
> guys
> and girls I guess :)
>
> ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or
> anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get something
> out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way for
> most
> people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The other
> problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a large
> turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than
> talking prevented the newcomers from attending again......
>
> Do we move forward with the group???............
>
> Regards
> Andy :)
>
>
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Darren Storer
Comgate
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