From darren.storer at gmail.com Sun Sep 23 21:35:30 2007 From: darren.storer at gmail.com (Storer, Darren) Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 20:35:30 -0000 Subject: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? In-Reply-To: <33816A2BC890764BAFE5F471DF4818E2413394@OC-STAFFMAIL1.oldham.ac.uk> References: <000301c7d379$57cacac0$07606040$@finch@btinternet.com> <33816A2BC890764BAFE5F471DF4818E2413394@OC-STAFFMAIL1.oldham.ac.uk> Message-ID: <1142a46a0709231335y3c20423fl6ab3c661c1ca7a57@mail.gmail.com> For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but still here. D On 01/08/2007, Baker, George wrote: > > Hi > That's a definite MAYBE from me > > How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: manchesterwireless-bounces+george= > networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net [mailto: > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net] > On Behalf Of Reuben Finch > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM > To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list' > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get together, > maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social event > whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real > direction > and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all we like > on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of achieving > some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together would > help. > > Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is > feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we have. As > always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future. > > The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets see what > can be done "realistically". > > Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away from the > wife and kids. > > Honest Scouts Honour! > > What do you think? > > Kind Regards, > Reuben > > -----Original Message----- > From: > manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net > [mailto: > manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle > ss.net] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton > Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 > To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list > > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never > > achieve anything. Now prove me > > wrong. > > Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live outside > of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals to the > group. > > That is one of successful and still working project that I am aware of ? > (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless). > > Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, but he > does have a valid point) .... > there must be other > achievements? Whether locally or further a field? > > Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other achievements > :) > > I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action over > the > years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements thanks to > help > > from > the group. It would be good to hear from you :) > > Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a vision > to > head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. I'm keen > to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs > direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. Keeping the > current content on the website is only confusing people, and people hoping > to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to > happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many other > options available that we could try. Linking networks together just the > sake > > of "we've done it" could be a start? > > Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to lead > the > group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? Shame > if > this happens. > > The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of people. > Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting attempt, well, > it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda. > > What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to the list? > Be > honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward or stay > stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame anyone, a > nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people are on > the > list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website "promotes" it. > It would be good to hear from you. > > It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and beyond. That > needs > support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up to you > guys > and girls I guess :) > > ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or > anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get something > out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way for > most > people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The other > problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a large > turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than > talking prevented the newcomers from attending again...... > > Do we move forward with the group???............ > > Regards > Andy :) > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > -- Darren Storer Comgate Telco|Internet|Broadcast -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pointless.net/pipermail/manchesterwireless/attachments/20070923/71c4200b/attachment.html