[manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?

jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk
Mon Oct 15 01:48:11 BST 2007


I think I'm in the shitpit :))


On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

>im still here too
>
>Harry Moyes <harry at shoka.net> wrote:  Storer, Darren wrote:
>> For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but 
>> still here.
>> 
>> D
>
>But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the 
>shitpit. :(
>
>Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers 
>of things I will not
>mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh.
>
>Cheers Harry
>
>Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you
>>
>> 
>> On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> That's a definite MAYBE from me
>>
>> How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally?
>>
>> George
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net
>> [mailto:
>> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net
>> ]
>> On Behalf Of Reuben Finch
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM
>> To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list'
>> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>>
>> I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get
>> together,
>> maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social
>> event
>> whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real
>> direction
>> and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all
>> we like
>> on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of
>> achieving
>> some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together
>> would help.
>>
>> Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is
>> feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we
>> have. As
>> always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future.
>>
>> The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets
>> see what
>> can be done "realistically".
>>
>> Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away
>> from the
>> wife and kids.
>>
>> Honest Scouts Honour!
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> Reuben
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:
>> manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=
>> btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net
>> 
>> [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle
>> 
>> ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton
>> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46
>> To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>>
>> > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list
>> > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never
>> > achieve anything. Now prove me
>> > wrong.
>>
>> Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live
>> outside
>> of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals
>> to the
>> group.
>>
>> That is one of successful and still working project that I am
>> aware of ?
>> (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless).
>>
>> Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh,
>> but he
>> does have a valid point) ....
>> there must be other
>> achievements? Whether locally or further a field?
>>
>> Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other
>> achievements
>> :)
>>
>> I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action
>> over the
>> years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements
>> thanks to help
>>
>> from
>> the group. It would be good to hear from you :)
>>
>> Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a
>> vision to
>> head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before.
>> I'm keen
>> to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs
>> direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website.
>> Keeping the
>> current content on the website is only confusing people, and
>> people hoping
>> to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to
>> happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many
>> other
>> options available that we could try. Linking networks together
>> just the sake
>>
>> of "we've done it" could be a start?
>>
>> Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to
>> lead the
>> group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here?
>> Shame if
>> this happens.
>>
>> The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of
>> people.
>> Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting
>> attempt, well,
>> it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda.
>>
>> What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to
>> the list? Be
>> honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward
>> or stay
>> stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame
>> anyone, a
>> nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people
>> are on the
>> list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website
>> "promotes" it.
>> It would be good to hear from you.
>>
>> It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and
>> beyond. That
>> needs
>> support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up
>> to you guys
>> and girls I guess :)
>>
>> ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or
>> anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get
>> something
>> out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way
>> for most
>> people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The
>> other
>> problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a
>> large
>> turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than
>> talking prevented the newcomers from attending again......
>>
>> Do we move forward with the group???............
>>
>> Regards
>> Andy :)
>>
>>
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