[manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?

Harry Moyes harry at shoka.net
Sun Oct 14 00:42:42 BST 2007


Storer, Darren wrote:
> For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but 
> still here.
>  
> D

But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the 
shitpit. :(

Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers 
of things I will not
mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh.

Cheers Harry

Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you
>
>  
> On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* <George.Baker at oldham.ac.uk 
> <mailto:George.Baker at oldham.ac.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Hi
>     That's a definite MAYBE from me
>
>     How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally?
>
>     George
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From:
>     manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net
>     <mailto:networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net> [mailto:
>     manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net
>     <mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net>]
>     On Behalf Of Reuben Finch
>     Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM
>     To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list'
>     Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>
>     I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get
>     together,
>     maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social
>     event
>     whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real
>     direction
>     and build some enthusiasm up.  I sincerely feel we can harp on all
>     we like
>     on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of
>     achieving
>     some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together
>     would help.
>
>     Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is
>     feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we
>     have.  As
>     always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future.
>
>     The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets
>     see what
>     can be done "realistically".
>
>     Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away
>     from the
>     wife and kids.
>
>     Honest Scouts Honour!
>
>     What do you think?
>
>     Kind Regards,
>     Reuben
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From:
>     manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=
>     btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net
>     <mailto:btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net>
>     [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle
>     <mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle>
>     ss.net <http://ss.net>] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton
>     Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46
>     To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list
>     Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active?
>
>     > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list
>     > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never
>     > achieve anything. Now prove me
>     > wrong.
>
>     Warrington Wireless :)  But then again, we are a minority and live
>     outside
>     of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals
>     to the
>     group.
>
>     That is one of successful and still working project that I am
>     aware of ?
>     (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless).
>
>     Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh,
>     but he
>     does have a valid point) ....
>     there must be other
>     achievements? Whether locally or further a field?
>
>     Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other
>     achievements
>     :)
>
>     I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action
>     over the
>     years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements
>     thanks to help
>
>     from
>     the group. It would be good to hear from you :)
>
>     Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a
>     vision to
>     head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before.
>     I'm keen
>     to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs
>     direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website.
>     Keeping the
>     current content on the website is only confusing people, and
>     people hoping
>     to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to
>     happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many
>     other
>     options available that we could try. Linking networks together
>     just the sake
>
>     of "we've done it" could be a start?
>
>     Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to
>     lead the
>     group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here?
>     Shame if
>     this happens.
>
>     The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of
>     people.
>     Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting
>     attempt, well,
>     it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda.
>
>     What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to
>     the list? Be
>     honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward
>     or stay
>     stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame
>     anyone, a
>     nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people
>     are on the
>     list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website
>     "promotes" it.
>     It would be good to hear from you.
>
>     It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and
>     beyond. That
>     needs
>     support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up
>     to you guys
>     and girls I guess :)
>
>     ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or
>     anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get
>     something
>     out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way
>     for most
>     people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The
>     other
>     problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a
>     large
>     turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than
>     talking prevented the newcomers from attending again......
>
>     Do we move forward with the group???............
>
>     Regards
>     Andy :)
>
>
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