From harry at shoka.net Sun Oct 14 00:42:42 2007 From: harry at shoka.net (Harry Moyes) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 00:42:42 +0100 Subject: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? In-Reply-To: <1142a46a0709231335y3c20423fl6ab3c661c1ca7a57@mail.gmail.com> References: <000301c7d379$57cacac0$07606040$@finch@btinternet.com> <33816A2BC890764BAFE5F471DF4818E2413394@OC-STAFFMAIL1.oldham.ac.uk> <1142a46a0709231335y3c20423fl6ab3c661c1ca7a57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <471157F2.7040203@shoka.net> Storer, Darren wrote: > For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but > still here. > > D But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the shitpit. :( Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers of things I will not mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh. Cheers Harry Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you > > > On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > wrote: > > Hi > That's a definite MAYBE from me > > How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > [mailto: > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > ] > On Behalf Of Reuben Finch > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM > To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list' > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get > together, > maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social > event > whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real > direction > and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all > we like > on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of > achieving > some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together > would help. > > Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is > feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we > have. As > always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future. > > The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets > see what > can be done "realistically". > > Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away > from the > wife and kids. > > Honest Scouts Honour! > > What do you think? > > Kind Regards, > Reuben > > -----Original Message----- > From: > manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch= > btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net > > [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle > > ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton > Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 > To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list > > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never > > achieve anything. Now prove me > > wrong. > > Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live > outside > of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals > to the > group. > > That is one of successful and still working project that I am > aware of ? > (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless). > > Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, > but he > does have a valid point) .... > there must be other > achievements? Whether locally or further a field? > > Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other > achievements > :) > > I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action > over the > years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements > thanks to help > > from > the group. It would be good to hear from you :) > > Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a > vision to > head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. > I'm keen > to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs > direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. > Keeping the > current content on the website is only confusing people, and > people hoping > to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to > happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many > other > options available that we could try. Linking networks together > just the sake > > of "we've done it" could be a start? > > Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to > lead the > group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? > Shame if > this happens. > > The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of > people. > Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting > attempt, well, > it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda. > > What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to > the list? Be > honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward > or stay > stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame > anyone, a > nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people > are on the > list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website > "promotes" it. > It would be good to hear from you. > > It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and > beyond. That > needs > support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up > to you guys > and girls I guess :) > > ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or > anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get > something > out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way > for most > people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The > other > problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a > large > turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than > talking prevented the newcomers from attending again...... > > Do we move forward with the group???............ > > Regards > Andy :) > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > > -- > Darren Storer > Comgate > Telco|Internet|Broadcast > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > From muchmorebeer at yahoo.co.uk Sun Oct 14 18:06:08 2007 From: muchmorebeer at yahoo.co.uk (simon roberts) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? In-Reply-To: <471157F2.7040203@shoka.net> Message-ID: <205248.21474.qm@web25010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> im still here too Harry Moyes wrote: Storer, Darren wrote: > For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but > still here. > > D But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the shitpit. :( Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers of things I will not mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh. Cheers Harry Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you > > > On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > > wrote: > > Hi > That's a definite MAYBE from me > > How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? > > George > > -----Original Message----- > From: > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > [mailto: > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > ] > On Behalf Of Reuben Finch > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM > To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list' > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get > together, > maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social > event > whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real > direction > and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all > we like > on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of > achieving > some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together > would help. > > Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is > feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we > have. As > always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future. > > The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets > see what > can be done "realistically". > > Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away > from the > wife and kids. > > Honest Scouts Honour! > > What do you think? > > Kind Regards, > Reuben > > -----Original Message----- > From: > manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch= > btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net > > [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle > > ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton > Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 > To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? > > > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list > > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never > > achieve anything. Now prove me > > wrong. > > Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live > outside > of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals > to the > group. > > That is one of successful and still working project that I am > aware of ? > (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless). > > Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, > but he > does have a valid point) .... > there must be other > achievements? Whether locally or further a field? > > Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other > achievements > :) > > I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action > over the > years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements > thanks to help > > from > the group. It would be good to hear from you :) > > Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a > vision to > head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. > I'm keen > to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs > direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. > Keeping the > current content on the website is only confusing people, and > people hoping > to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to > happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many > other > options available that we could try. Linking networks together > just the sake > > of "we've done it" could be a start? > > Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to > lead the > group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? > Shame if > this happens. > > The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of > people. > Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting > attempt, well, > it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda. > > What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to > the list? Be > honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward > or stay > stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame > anyone, a > nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people > are on the > list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website > "promotes" it. > It would be good to hear from you. > > It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and > beyond. That > needs > support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up > to you guys > and girls I guess :) > > ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or > anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get > something > out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way > for most > people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The > other > problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a > large > turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than > talking prevented the newcomers from attending again...... > > Do we move forward with the group???............ > > Regards > Andy :) > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > > > -- > Darren Storer > Comgate > Telco|Internet|Broadcast > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > ManchesterWireless mailing list > ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > _______________________________________________ ManchesterWireless mailing list ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless --------------------------------- Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://pointless.net/pipermail/manchesterwireless/attachments/20071014/491a6702/attachment.html From jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk Mon Oct 15 01:48:11 2007 From: jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk (jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 01:48:11 +0100 Subject: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? In-Reply-To: <205248.21474.qm@web25010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <471157F2.7040203@shoka.net> <205248.21474.qm@web25010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I think I'm in the shitpit :)) On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >im still here too > >Harry Moyes wrote: Storer, Darren wrote: >> For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but >> still here. >> >> D > >But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the >shitpit. :( > >Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers >of things I will not >mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh. > >Cheers Harry > >Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you >> >> >> On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > > wrote: >> >> Hi >> That's a definite MAYBE from me >> >> How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net >> [mailto: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net >> ] >> On Behalf Of Reuben Finch >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM >> To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? >> >> I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get >> together, >> maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social >> event >> whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real >> direction >> and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all >> we like >> on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of >> achieving >> some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together >> would help. >> >> Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is >> feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we >> have. As >> always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future. >> >> The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets >> see what >> can be done "realistically". >> >> Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away >> from the >> wife and kids. >> >> Honest Scouts Honour! >> >> What do you think? >> >> Kind Regards, >> Reuben >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch= >> btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net >> >> [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle >> >> ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton >> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 >> To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list >> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? >> >> > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list >> > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never >> > achieve anything. Now prove me >> > wrong. >> >> Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live >> outside >> of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals >> to the >> group. >> >> That is one of successful and still working project that I am >> aware of ? >> (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless). >> >> Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, >> but he >> does have a valid point) .... >> there must be other >> achievements? Whether locally or further a field? >> >> Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other >> achievements >> :) >> >> I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action >> over the >> years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements >> thanks to help >> >> from >> the group. It would be good to hear from you :) >> >> Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a >> vision to >> head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. >> I'm keen >> to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs >> direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. >> Keeping the >> current content on the website is only confusing people, and >> people hoping >> to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to >> happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many >> other >> options available that we could try. Linking networks together >> just the sake >> >> of "we've done it" could be a start? >> >> Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to >> lead the >> group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? >> Shame if >> this happens. >> >> The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of >> people. >> Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting >> attempt, well, >> it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda. >> >> What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to >> the list? Be >> honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward >> or stay >> stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame >> anyone, a >> nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people >> are on the >> list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website >> "promotes" it. >> It would be good to hear from you. >> >> It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and >> beyond. That >> needs >> support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up >> to you guys >> and girls I guess :) >> >> ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or >> anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get >> something >> out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way >> for most >> people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The >> other >> problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a >> large >> turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than >> talking prevented the newcomers from attending again...... >> >> Do we move forward with the group???............ >> >> Regards >> Andy :) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Darren Storer >> Comgate >> Telco|Internet|Broadcast >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ManchesterWireless mailing list >ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. >Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > >__________ NOD32 2591 (20071014) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com From reuben.finch at btinternet.com Mon Oct 15 08:58:47 2007 From: reuben.finch at btinternet.com (Reuben Finch) Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2007 08:58:47 +0100 Subject: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? In-Reply-To: References: <471157F2.7040203@shoka.net> <205248.21474.qm@web25010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000301c80f01$37d26b60$a7774220$@finch@btinternet.com> Shit Pit and or Sin Bin! Either way, since our telephone call details are now given out. Our privacy eroded. Jon ought to encrypt some good ham radio key crystals! Harry ought to do more freelance work as an excellent speaker, and I need to really carry on with BSD work. I did check out details by the way, for a weekend out. It will cost us ?50 each for 28 people including Bed & Breakfast accommodation plus Coach Hire. We do need the numbers though! This is not a "Carry on Camping" film we will make. (Twenty Eight) 28 people minimum people are required. If we can pull this back together. Brilliant. Agree a date and let's have fun. Just please do not say yes and let the team down. Kind Regards, Reuben -----Original Message----- From: manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle ss.net] On Behalf Of jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk Sent: 15 October 2007 01:48 To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? I think I'm in the shitpit :)) On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: >im still here too > >Harry Moyes wrote: Storer, Darren wrote: >> For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged it would seem but >> still here. >> >> D > >But you've not posted from your signed on address and got stuck in the >shitpit. :( > >Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to chuck away 5000 offers >of things I will not >mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. Sigh. > >Cheers Harry > >Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you >> >> >> On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > > wrote: >> >> Hi >> That's a definite MAYBE from me >> >> How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? >> >> George >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net >> [mailto: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net >> ] >> On Behalf Of Reuben Finch >> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM >> To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list' >> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? >> >> I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we can all get >> together, >> maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an informal social >> event >> whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around and get some real >> direction >> and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we can harp on all >> we like >> on the mailing list, but a good social event without pressure of >> achieving >> some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to get together >> would help. >> >> Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key places and see what is >> feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the contacts we >> have. As >> always, if we have no structure or good foundation we have no future. >> >> The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable time and lets >> see what >> can be done "realistically". >> >> Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good excuse to get away >> from the >> wife and kids. >> >> Honest Scouts Honour! >> >> What do you think? >> >> Kind Regards, >> Reuben >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: >> manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch= >> btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net >> >> [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle >> >> ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton >> Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 >> To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network discussion list >> Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still active? >> >> > The great majority of the people subscribed to this list >> > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never >> > achieve anything. Now prove me >> > wrong. >> >> Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a minority and live >> outside >> of Manchester, and a private network with different aims and goals >> to the >> group. >> >> That is one of successful and still working project that I am >> aware of ? >> (with much help and support from Manchester Wireless). >> >> Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if a little harsh, >> but he >> does have a valid point) .... >> there must be other >> achievements? Whether locally or further a field? >> >> Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to hear of other >> achievements >> :) >> >> I have to admit, there has always been a lot of talk and no action >> over the >> years. I'm sure that other people have there own achievements >> thanks to help >> >> from >> the group. It would be good to hear from you :) >> >> Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a major revamp and a >> vision to >> head towards. It's been mentioned recently and many times before. >> I'm keen >> to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are as well). It needs >> direction and leadership and a total rewrite of the website. >> Keeping the >> current content on the website is only confusing people, and >> people hoping >> to get "free" internet (the original aim). It's unlikely to >> happen, unless there is a viable "business" model. There are many >> other >> options available that we could try. Linking networks together >> just the sake >> >> of "we've done it" could be a start? >> >> Good to see some activity again on the list. Needs the founders to >> lead the >> group. If not, then we may need to question why are we still here? >> Shame if >> this happens. >> >> The problem is - to move forward needs support from a number of >> people. >> Whether the support is there I don't know? The last meeting >> attempt, well, >> it was a complete disaster due to very poor planning and no agenda. >> >> What do people want out of the group? Why are you subscribed to >> the list? Be >> honest, as this would help everyone decide whether we move forward >> or stay >> stationary. If people do decide to respond, please don't flame >> anyone, a >> nice open and honest feedback session can do wonders :) if people >> are on the >> list just for free internet, then thats fine as the website >> "promotes" it. >> It would be good to hear from you. >> >> It would be good to see us bring the group back into 2007 and >> beyond. That >> needs >> support and people. Without it, we'll still be stuck in 2005. Up >> to you guys >> and girls I guess :) >> >> ... not that I'm missing the 3 Arrows and it's fantastic sandwiches or >> anything :) But to put into perspective, those who wanted to get >> something >> out of the group made the effort to attend - it was out of the way >> for most >> people (especially me!) but I made the effort and glad I did. The >> other >> problem is the lack of regulars - only a very small handful but a >> large >> turnover of newcomers. I think the lack of actual "doing" rather than >> talking prevented the newcomers from attending again...... >> >> Do we move forward with the group???............ >> >> Regards >> Andy :) >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Darren Storer >> Comgate >> Telco|Internet|Broadcast >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ManchesterWireless mailing list >> ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >> http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless >> > > >_______________________________________________ >ManchesterWireless mailing list >ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net >http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > > > >--------------------------------- >Be a better Heartthrob. 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Answers - Check it out. > > >__________ NOD32 2591 (20071014) Information __________ > >This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ ManchesterWireless mailing list ManchesterWireless at lists.pointless.net http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless From grahamnorton at yahoo.com Wed Oct 17 07:30:31 2007 From: grahamnorton at yahoo.com (Graham Norton) Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 23:30:31 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [manchesterwireless] ManchesterWireless Digest, Vol 40, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <288118.32740.qm@web38801.mail.mud.yahoo.com> still here g --- manchesterwireless-request at lists.pointless.net wrote: > Send ManchesterWireless mailing list submissions to > manchesterwireless at lists.pointless.net > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, > visit > > http://pointless.net/mailman/listinfo/manchesterwireless > or, via email, send a message with subject or body > 'help' to > manchesterwireless-request at lists.pointless.net > > You can reach the person managing the list at > manchesterwireless-owner at lists.pointless.net > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it > is more specific > than "Re: Contents of ManchesterWireless digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Anyone still active? (simon roberts) > 2. Re: Anyone still active? > (jgxhs at nessie.mcc.ac.uk) > 3. Re: Anyone still active? (Reuben Finch) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 10:06:08 -0700 (PDT) > From: simon roberts > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still > active? > To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network > discussion list > > Message-ID: > <205248.21474.qm at web25010.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > im still here too > > Harry Moyes wrote: Storer, Darren > wrote: > > For what it's worth, I'm still here... much lagged > it would seem but > > still here. > > > > D > > But you've not posted from your signed on address > and got stuck in the > shitpit. :( > > Where you stay until I get up the enthusiasm to > chuck away 5000 offers > of things I will not > mention here lest this mail also gets filtered. > Sigh. > > Cheers Harry > > Mail offlist and I'll sort it out with you > > > > > > On 01/08/2007, *Baker, George* > > wrote: > > > > Hi > > That's a definite MAYBE from me > > > > How about a trip that includes a Radio Rally? > > > > George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > > [mailto: > > > manchesterwireless-bounces+george=networktrainer.co.uk at lists.pointless.net > > ] > > On Behalf Of Reuben Finch > > Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 2:47 PM > > To: 'Manchester's Wireless Community Network > discussion list' > > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still > active? > > > > I just say we should organise a "Day Out" where we > can all get > > together, > > maybe hire a minibus or two and make it more of an > informal social > > event > > whereby we could actually "bounce idea's around > and get some real > > direction > > and build some enthusiasm up. I sincerely feel we > can harp on all > > we like > > on the mailing list, but a good social event > without pressure of > > achieving > > some strict goal immediately albeit a good time to > get together > > would help. > > > > Maybe take a trip to winter hill and other key > places and see what is > > feasibly possible to achieve with wireless and the > contacts we > > have. As > > always, if we have no structure or good foundation > we have no future. > > > > The idea in my mind, would be to have an enjoyable > time and lets > > see what > > can be done "realistically". > > > > Besides a good day out... or weekend is a good > excuse to get away > > from the > > wife and kids. > > > > Honest Scouts Honour! > > > > What do you think? > > > > Kind Regards, > > Reuben > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch= > > btinternet.com at lists.pointless.net > > > > > [mailto:manchesterwireless-bounces+reuben.finch=btinternet.com at lists.pointle > > > > ss.net ] On Behalf Of Andy Gauton > > Sent: 31 July 2007 09:46 > > To: Manchester's Wireless Community Network > discussion list > > Subject: Re: [manchesterwireless] Anyone still > active? > > > > > The great majority of the people subscribed to > this list > > > are a bunch of gonna do time wasters who never > > > achieve anything. Now prove me > > > wrong. > > > > Warrington Wireless :) But then again, we are a > minority and live > > outside > > of Manchester, and a private network with > different aims and goals > > to the > > group. > > > > That is one of successful and still working > project that I am > > aware of ? > > (with much help and support from Manchester > Wireless). > > > > Ok, that doesn't quite answer John's question (if > a little harsh, > > but he > > does have a valid point) .... > > there must be other > > achievements? Whether locally or further a field? > > > > Edit - just noticed a few more replies. Good to > hear of other > > achievements > > :) > > > > I have to admit, there has always been a lot of > talk and no action > > over the > > years. I'm sure that other people have there own > achievements > > thanks to help > > > > from > > the group. It would be good to hear from you :) > > > > Manchester Wireless group aims and goals need a > major revamp and a > > vision to > > head towards. It's been mentioned recently and > many times before. > > I'm keen > > to progress with the group (as I'm sure others are > as well). It needs > > direction and leadership and a total rewrite of > the website. > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433